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CloversMum

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Posted - Feb 14 2016 :  5:18:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great conversation everyone ... I'm late to the party but I do agree with Cindy's comments. I was one that was concerned about the vacuum vs pulsation pumps. After using the EZ milking machine on cows and goats for the past six months, I have not seen any problems ... no mastitis on either species and no visual damage seen on my animals. Now, I do not have years and years of experience, being a newbie to the cow world and before I've always hand-milked my goats.

Also, tonight I think we'll be watching the link that Maryjane posted above. Thank you!

Keep asking questions, Andrea. I SO appreciate this group in their ability to help one another and to learn from one another. It is great.

Loving life and family on our Idaho farm, Meadowlark Heritage Farm; A few Jersey cows; a few alpacas; a few more goats, and even more ducks and chickens
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Andrea0509

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Posted - Feb 14 2016 :  7:33:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cindy, thanks for your follow up on this today! I did a little further reading here on HJO today (old threads about the EZ and vaccum vs. pulsating machines), and it's all been so very helpful to increase my understanding with all of this.

I'm no longer concerned about those comments on the pro boards now that I've taken a step back and looked at the bigger picture. I couldn't agree more with what you said about how many people yelling fire can't create a spark! That about sums it up! I didn't appreciate the disrespect to Buck and his work either. He genuinely believes in his product and that speaks volumes. And it comes 100% backed with good old fashioned customer service that's pretty hard to come by anymore. What other milk machine manufacturer can you speak directly to the owner/inventor himself? Probably none. And I love that! And I love your analogy of comparing these types of decisions to parenting. I couldn't agree more with that being a momma of two :)

Thanks for all of your insight on this and for taking the time to share your thoughts! I'm sure it will help many more who are asking the same questions I am in the future :)

Thank you Mary Jane for your advice as well. I like that you mentioned how the EZ can help us keep a close eye on teat health much better than other machines out there. That alone is a huge selling point to me. I want to be able to monitor things as best I can to prevent any issues from cropping up, and if my machine can aid in that, all the better! From what you and others have talked about on HJO posts, the concern about constant vaccuum pressure doesn't seem to be anything to be concerned about after hearing everyone's thoughts on the matter. But like you said, if eventually any of us finds that there is a potential problem with that, we're willing to be wrong, will make the necessary changes in our setup, and continue providing the best care possible to our girls. Another learning experience :) And another reason I love learning on HJO!

Thanks Charlene for your advice on this too. It is so helpful to hear from someone who has used this setup daily and can attest to it's quality. Glad it's worked so well for you!

All in all, I've found plenty of compelling and reassuring advice on here that has convinced me to move forward with buying the EZ. I was 99% sure before but had to make sure I looked into any last concerns before making the investment. I'm so excited I've finally made a decision!


Hobby farming with my husband & two kids in beautiful Michigan ~ 1 Jersey; Miss Persimmon, 2 Olde English Southdown ewes; Lula & Clementine, and chickens to come Spring 2016. Loving the adventure!
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txbikergirl

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Posted - Feb 15 2016 :  09:21:58 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
andrea,

we all understand because we have all been there! most of us on HJO "over"-research everything, and reach out with our concerns, some genuine and some unfounded. being a newbie the polite discourse on HJO has been very helpful, most of the emotion is left out and everyone truly wants to help out.

i look forward to seeing how all of this works out for you. what i love is that we might agree and move in the same direction, but we all put our tweaks on it so each and every one of us does it a bit different.

blessings from east texas.

Firefly Hollow Farm , our little farmstead. Farmgirl living in the green piney woods of East Texas on 23 acres with a few jerseys, too many chickens, a pair of pugs and my Texan hubby (aka "lover boy")
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Andrea0509

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Posted - Feb 15 2016 :  10:38:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cindy,

Yes I love how sweet and helpful everyone has been throughout this learning process. It's definitely something that doesn't seem very common in many online communities.

I'm planning to slowly start purchasing the items on my milking supply list throughout the spring and leading up to the calf's arrival in August. I'm SO glad that I didn't wait until the last minute with preparing everything. Fun times ahead :)

Hobby farming with my husband & two kids in beautiful Michigan ~ 1 Jersey; Miss Persimmon, 2 Olde English Southdown ewes; Lula & Clementine, and chickens to come Spring 2016. Loving the adventure!
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NellieBelle

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Posted - Feb 16 2016 :  01:20:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I stepped out a few days, but on returning and reading through this thread I just wanted to comment on the Ultimate EZ milker. I've used it from the very beginning. Some of you I know milk once a day, whereas, I milk two cows, twice daily using the Ultimate EZ milker and I haven't had any issues with trauma on the cows teats. Nellie and Sienna's teats look fabulous, no issue, no mastitis. I just think the Ultimate EZ milker has been a wonderful machine. I'm thankful to have it. No regrets, no misgivings. For what it's worth.

To laugh is human but to moo is bovine. Author Unknown
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txbikergirl

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Posted - Feb 16 2016 :  09:34:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
janet your comments are worth their weight in gold, as you are much more experienced that this newbie ;> its opinions like these that help us clueless ones make our decisions, and then reinforce them later on as well. thanks!

Firefly Hollow Farm , our little farmstead. Farmgirl living in the green piney woods of East Texas on 23 acres with a few jerseys, too many chickens, a pair of pugs and my Texan hubby (aka "lover boy")
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CloversMum

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Posted - Feb 16 2016 :  2:13:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you, Janet!

Loving life and family on our Idaho farm, Meadowlark Heritage Farm; A few Jersey cows; a few alpacas; a few more goats, and even more ducks and chickens
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Andrea0509

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Posted - Feb 16 2016 :  3:48:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Janet for sharing your experience with the EZ. That's great to hear you use it twice daily on two cows, and have had no teat problems at all. And I second what Cindy said - your experience is worth so much to those of us who're just beginning. The more I hear wonderful reviews of this little milker the more I get excited to start using it :) Thanks!

Hobby farming with my husband & two kids in beautiful Michigan ~ 1 Jersey; Miss Persimmon, 2 Olde English Southdown ewes; Lula & Clementine, and chickens to come Spring 2016. Loving the adventure!
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txbikergirl

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Posted - Mar 02 2016 :  5:07:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
so i experimented with my new Y brass connectors. if you recall, i ordered 3/16" and 1/4" to replace the plastic Y connectors that i am apparently unreasonably tough on.

i thought that the 1/4" would be the right ones, but nope... the 3/16" fit the bill perfectly. just a bit smaller, and are very nice. in fact, i LOVE them better than the plastic ones. they feel substantial in my hand, but also attach to the milking machine tubing in a better way.

i do notice that the weight of the brass connector makes it just a bit heavier in the milking parlor, i slip my blue hose around the dial of the ez milker now that it is up high in the milkmaid trolley - and the hose does slip down sometimes due to the weight. also, the fit into the blue hose isn't as tight as the fit into the two clear hoses - but it is snug and makes a tight seal so that is all that matters. it functions perfectly well, and now i won't be breaking Y connectors.







here is the amazon link i ordered them from, but ordering one piece is more expensive (crazy shipping) than if you can find them locally http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NMRJAYA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

many thanks to the lovely pedicure model, miss sally o'mally.

Firefly Hollow Farm , our little farmstead. Farmgirl living in the green piney woods of East Texas on 23 acres with a few jerseys, too many chickens, a pair of pugs and my Texan hubby (aka "lover boy")
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CloversMum

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Posted - Mar 04 2016 :  1:33:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So far the plastic Y connectors are working for us, but good to know that there are other options.

Loving life and family on our Idaho farm, Meadowlark Heritage Farm; A few Jersey cows; a few alpacas; a few more goats, and even more ducks and chickens
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txbikergirl

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Posted - Mar 04 2016 :  3:08:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes, i am a TOUGH GIRL so will encounter ten times as many breaks as y'all ;>

Firefly Hollow Farm , our little farmstead. Farmgirl living in the green piney woods of East Texas on 23 acres with a few jerseys, too many chickens, a pair of pugs and my Texan hubby (aka "lover boy")
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CloversMum

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Posted - Mar 04 2016 :  5:19:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And, we don't have the IKEA rolling cart yet ... no sense to do that without a barn for the cows at the moment. I'm concerned that the brass Y connector would be too heavy and easily fall to the ground, getting dirty and risking contamination. But after those IKEA carts arrive ... then brass connectors might be the way!

Loving life and family on our Idaho farm, Meadowlark Heritage Farm; A few Jersey cows; a few alpacas; a few more goats, and even more ducks and chickens
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txbikergirl

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Posted - Mar 04 2016 :  5:45:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the funny thing charlene is that i have been having a premature sense of loss for my EZ Milker this week ;> once the duchess decides to comply with the drying off process i will have to put the EZ aside for a few months. this little machine and accompanying milk bottles is like my little morning friend, its just there and does a job efficiently and makes my life so simple. i will actually miss the little machine. but it gets a well earned 60 day vacation, to rest up and come back to work twice as hard with a new momma in milk.

Firefly Hollow Farm , our little farmstead. Farmgirl living in the green piney woods of East Texas on 23 acres with a few jerseys, too many chickens, a pair of pugs and my Texan hubby (aka "lover boy")
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Buck

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Posted - Sep 25 2016 :  7:47:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sept 25th, 2016 Lexington, Ky
Hello Everyone!
I think that this is my first entry, and first off I want to thank MJB and all of you using my Ultimate Ez and Udderly Ez Milkers. I read with great interest how many of you have been using my Milkers. We have been very busy this past year and have shipped a great deal to the Middle East, Europe and really all over the world.

Paddy Cake did have her bull calf on May 28th of this year and he was such an outstanding individual I called MJ and ordered two more straws and my Thoroughbred Vet. has done an excellent job as he impregnated her on the first go around both times so she is pregnant again to "Hansom Sampson" as I call him.

I have seen a need of doing a video for the many first timers in the business so when I saw her start pacing in her paddock I gave her a bath and brought her into our Mare Foaling Stall to deliver. As soon as I can get to it, I will edit the Video as I have everything from the first contraction to the calving delivery itself to milking out the colostrum, paint his naval and the whole 9 yards, it will probably wind up about 13 minutes or so.

We just finished a video of doing a complete milking with the Ultimate Ez , on Paddy Cake and full explanation of setting up the unit and the whole process. On another front I am happy to report that by Dec we should have our new Silicone Inflations made here in the USA. Texas to be exact, and they will be in 3 sizes, & will even fit the Camels, and big teated Cows, Goats and Mares. I will try and upload some pictures of Paddy and her calf. If I May be of any help to anyone please do not hesitate to contact me, my cell is the best. 507 213 2126 We have upgraded the hand milker this year also. If any one is interested or has a friend that is Paddy Cake and calf are for sale, she is bred back, I am just to busy with the business and sold my horses also, awfully hard to do..............
Regards, Buck Wheeler

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farmlife

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Posted - Sep 25 2016 :  8:57:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Again, Cindy are you reading this? Cows are falling out of the sky right now near Texas!
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NellieBelle

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Posted - Sep 26 2016 :  04:00:53 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great entry Buck! Patty Cake and calf make for handsome pair. Yes, Keeley, I was thinking the same thing. Miss Cindy will be in a quandary.

To laugh is human but to moo is bovine. Author Unknown
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maryjane

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Posted - Sep 26 2016 :  06:44:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the update Buck and photos of the lovely Paddy Cake and calf. You'll like this photo I took yesterday. We had a first-time heifer who was having issues with let-down but I do believe I have it licked because the quantity of milk continues upward. Anyway, one of the things that's working is to keep her flow coming by using four EZ bottles at once. The front two have the large inflations, the back two the small. Her milk just pours into them!



Thank you again for all your hard work and for giving us such a great machine to use.

MaryJane Butters, author of Milk Cow Kitchen ~ striving for the stoicism of a cow standing in the rain ~
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maryjane

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Posted - Sep 26 2016 :  07:18:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Buck, I have an inflation suggestion if it's not too late.

On the small inflation it goes down into the outer sheath further, tapers, and is more narrow but thicker at the bottom (thicker silicone with ridges). That ensures there's always room for the air flow to create suction. When I use the bigger inflation, I've had it get sucked to the side of the sheath because the silicone is more flexible at the bottom (no ridges) and not as long. I hope that makes sense. In other words, I like the functionality of the smaller one better than the larger one. And I like the idea of three sizes!

Also on the smaller one that is longer and more rigid at the bottom, the milk as it's coming out goes all the way down into the bottle rather than hitting the lip on the neck of the bottle, making things more messy when you're switching bottles. Not a biggy but more spills and drips everywhere to clean up.

MaryJane Butters, author of Milk Cow Kitchen ~ striving for the stoicism of a cow standing in the rain ~
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Buck

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Posted - Sep 26 2016 :  08:16:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Thanks MaryJane for the comments, and all your concerns have been answered! I saw the same things that you mentioned, I have extended the length of the inflation to go past the threads, as I saw the same problem, when you unscrewed the bottle from the extractor tube, I didn't like the dripping all over the place either! The colored inflations you see, were the prototypes I have used for 3 months and milked every size teat I could think of???

Have included some more pictures to show how I tested them, and I think everyone will be very surprised as to the new function of the inflations, I spent one whole day with the head engineer at Jamak Corp in Weatherford, Tx. to help get it right, as none of them knew how to spell cow, milking or anything else.

After receiving the proto's and using them I readjusted all 3 of them so I hope I have it right now??
I made the flare different for each size to just 3/8 inches aboue the air intake hole so what you mentioned will never be a problem again!! Thanks, we'll talk soon.
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maryjane

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Posted - Sep 26 2016 :  08:26:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, Buck. I just want to say what good hands we're in with you at the helm. Hours and hours and hours of your time to our benefit. Thank you doesn't quite convey how I feel about you and my EZ:)

MaryJane Butters, author of Milk Cow Kitchen ~ striving for the stoicism of a cow standing in the rain ~
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GingerBKelly

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Posted - Sep 26 2016 :  08:58:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow is right! Thanks folks. I am so happy you share your ideas. Making a workplace better and fun makes me so happy. I'm really thankful for ya'll sharing ideas and tips. Buck Wheeler- Patty Cake is a beauty and I love your photos. Thank you.

~Ginger Kelly, Kelly Homestead Apiary, Charlton, MA~

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When a cow laughs, does milk come out her nose? ~Author Unknown


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txbikergirl

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Posted - Oct 02 2016 :  2:30:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i am here ladies but late to the party, out of town on work for a week.

buck, the big question is - is miss paddy cake in milk right now? how much milk per day? and whats her genetics? naturally polled, a2/a2, full jersey, etc... she is a bit smaller than what i am looking for, but top priority is a healthy cow so i am willing to compromise on a few things like size...

Firefly Hollow Farm , our little farmstead. Farmgirl living in the green piney woods of East Texas on 23 acres with a few jerseys, too many chickens, a pair of pugs and my Texan hubby (aka "lover boy")
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GingerBKelly

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Posted - Oct 17 2016 :  10:31:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Question to Buck Wheeler - are the new longer inflation tubes sold with the Ultimate EZ milker at this time? Another question, have you ever used the Stabilizer training system on a cow? I was just watching the video on your website and was wondering if this would work on a cow, if need be?

~Ginger Kelly, Kelly Homestead Apiary, Charlton, MA~

gingerbkelly@gmail.com
When a cow laughs, does milk come out her nose? ~Author Unknown


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Buck

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Posted - Oct 18 2016 :  09:21:58 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Everyone,

Buck Wheeler here and we just finished our new complete Ultimate Ez Video, starring "Paddy Cake" As you will see I go over everything that we are adding to our line or improving upon, as I do listen to our clients, and am really excited about our new Silicone Inflations that will be made here in the USA.
We have added an extra size being the large, which will accommodate Large draft mares, camels, and those big teats on the cows, and goats.
Our new bottle holders is almost a must, as I have probably dumped over more than one bottle while milking and then Karen has to clean out all the air hoses and the catch jar which doesn't make her too happy!

I know that the ends of the silicone tubing becomes soft and enlarged after much use, so I decided to do something about it and I will upload a picture and it is on the video also, we are attaching a special adapter to the little extension that the air hose now goes onto, and it is glued on with a special JB Weld for plastics and will not come off. They will be white in color. For those of you who did not get one of those 66" Stainless brushes when you purchased your milker they also are now available.

one other improvement we made is when you unscrew the bottles off the extractor tube to dump the milk I noticed that the milk was gathering in the threads, so we extended the overall length by 3/4 of an inch to eliminate that problem. If there are any other comments or observations please let me know, and for those of you with you first cow or first timers, I just want you to know, I grew up on a very large farm/ranch in N.Dak and my dying wish I would never milk another cow as long as I lived!! The Ultimate Ez evolved out of that experience and I can guarantee you, that if there were even a remote chance that any harm or mishaps that were to befall Paddy Cake, she would never have had it on her, she has been milked with it for over 3 years now.

Here's the link FYI to the new video on our site; http://udderlyez.com/ultimate_ez_milker.php This is Paddy Cakes last chance at stardom as she and her beautiful BuckARoo are up for sale. I am just too busy and I am going to vet her new owners because she is such a very special cow/person and she is back with calf to MJ's wonderful herd sire," Hansom Sampson" as I call him. If I may be of any further help do now hesitate to contact me, and yes you may use my cell phone! 507-213-2126

Thanks, Buck
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NellieBelle

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Posted - Oct 18 2016 :  10:12:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Buck. So thrilled with the updates, improvements and new items. I for one have had trouble with the ends of the silicone tubing so the new addition (extension) on the ends will be nice. Thanks for the link to your new video. Look forward to doing more business in the future. Thanks so much!!

To laugh is human but to moo is bovine. Author Unknown
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