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Sydney2015

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Posted - Mar 09 2015 :  08:15:45 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was wondering when I can take AppleButter off milk replacer. She's eating good, hay, alfalfa, grain. She will drink from a pail. Does anyone know?

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CloversMum

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Posted - Mar 09 2015 :  08:22:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We bottle fed Clover for 12 weeks. I would encourage you to at least feed AppleButter for that long...how old is she now?

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Sydney2015

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Posted - Mar 09 2015 :  08:35:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
She will be 7 weeks tomorrow. She has about 1/3 of a bag of milk replacer left, if I buy more, I won't use it all, and I don't know when I'll use it again. Could she just finish this bag?(Of course I'll be decreasing milk amount as she goes on)

A good laugh overcomes more difficulties and dissipates more dark clouds than any other one thing - Laura Ingalls Wilder

I live on a small farm of seventy acres called Green Forest Farm, with 10 horses, a donkey, 5 beef cows, 2 beef heifers, 3 Hereford heifers, around 60 chickens, 8 dogs, my amazing cow, AppleButter, and her little Jersey calf HoneyButter!
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CloversMum

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Posted - Mar 09 2015 :  08:48:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From past experiences, paying for one more bag (get the smallest one!) is way less expensive than any vet visit due to a little heifer who comes down ill. I froze my goat milk replacer from last year and just pulled it out of the freezer for my new little buckling that we just got. It was still good. Maybe you could freeze any extra?

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NellieBelle

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Posted - Mar 09 2015 :  08:51:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good morning Sydney. I had all of my calves weaned at 8 weeks. They were taking grain and hay and my vet suggested I wean them off the milk at 8 weeks so that's what I did. However, I was sure they were eating the hay and grain pellets. I didn't have any problems. And I had four so it was a good thing for me. Of course they weren't all weaned the same week because I bought them at different times but just telling you what I did. Hope it all works out for you.

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CloversMum

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Posted - Mar 09 2015 :  08:55:13 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good to know, Janet! I have to remember that Clover really did not start out on the best track! AppleButter has never been sick so Sydney go with Janet's advice!

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Sydney2015

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Posted - Mar 09 2015 :  09:05:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks! I'll be careful not to wean too quickly.

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NellieBelle

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Posted - Mar 09 2015 :  09:21:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sydney, how long has AppleButter been eating grain pellets?

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NellieBelle

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Posted - Mar 09 2015 :  09:25:45 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
May I please make a suggestion? If and when raising a bottle calf, keep a journal. That's what I did for my calves. I could look back and see what they ate, how much, when I introduced feed, hay etc. Then later on, if for some reason you have to bottle feed another calf you will have this information to look at. Each calf will be different. But it will give you something to look back on to see how things went.

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Sydney2015

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Posted - Mar 09 2015 :  10:00:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay. I'll start today. She's been eating calf starter for 3 weeks minimum, maybe 4 weeks. Should I start by offering her water at noon in a pail?

A good laugh overcomes more difficulties and dissipates more dark clouds than any other one thing - Laura Ingalls Wilder

I live on a small farm of seventy acres called Green Forest Farm, with 10 horses, a donkey, 5 beef cows, 2 beef heifers, 3 Hereford heifers, around 60 chickens, 8 dogs, my amazing cow, AppleButter, and her little Jersey calf HoneyButter!
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NellieBelle

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Posted - Mar 09 2015 :  12:23:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can thin her milk replacer down. When I started weaning I went to one feeding a day, and weakened the milk starter a bit at a time. If she's been eating calf starter for 3 weeks then her rumen should be developing. She will start eating more starter pellets when the milk is reduced, but go at it a bit at a time. Always fresh water available all the time, free choice and some hay. Keep an eye on her.

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NellieBelle

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Posted - Mar 09 2015 :  12:28:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It doesn't take a lot to stress a calf so just make it as smooth a transition as you can. Ease off milk replacer and just make sure she is eating good. No abrupt changes. Watch her stools.

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farmlife

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Posted - Mar 09 2015 :  2:38:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I would take the next 4 weeks or so to taper off her feedings, Sydney. We bottle fed our babies for close to 3 months, but the last month was only one feeding per day.
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NellieBelle

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Posted - Mar 09 2015 :  3:31:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sydney, there are many articles on rumen development for young calves. Here is one http://sheboygan.uwex.edu/files/2010/08/DevelopingtheRumenDevelopingtheHeifer.pdf The reason my vet told me to wean them by 8 weeks, he explained was due to developing the rumen. Do what you feel is best for AppleButter. We want to keep her healthy and develop into a gorgeous milk cow for you and your family.

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maryjane

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Posted - Mar 09 2015 :  3:42:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is now under a new category called Calf Health. Thanks for the heads up Sydney.

MaryJane Butters, author of Milk Cow Kitchen ~ striving for the stoicism of a cow standing in the rain ~
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Sydney2015

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Posted - Mar 10 2015 :  7:40:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've got a question, every 4 days, should I decrease the amount of milk replacer(I'll keep some and start going down in milk after a while)? I wasn't sure how to do that, she is at 5 oz. of milk replacer right now, since last night. On Thursday should I go down to 4 1/2?

A good laugh overcomes more difficulties and dissipates more dark clouds than any other one thing - Laura Ingalls Wilder

I live on a small farm of seventy acres called Green Forest Farm, with 10 horses, a donkey, 5 beef cows, 2 beef heifers, 3 Hereford heifers, around 60 chickens, 8 dogs, my amazing cow, AppleButter, and her little Jersey calf HoneyButter!
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NellieBelle

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Posted - Mar 10 2015 :  7:48:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do you mean you are putting in 5 oz. of the dry milk replacer into a quart of warm water? Sydney, as long as you dilute over a period of time she will be fine. Some wean off the milk replacer in a weeks time. Just gauge how she's doing. Is she eating about 1 1/2 lbs. of calf starter a day. Fresh water? Just monitor how she's doing but it sounds like you're doing a fine job. Reminder, picture of AppleButter. ;)

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Edited by - NellieBelle on Mar 11 2015 04:58:59 AM
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Sydney2015

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Posted - Mar 11 2015 :  08:18:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am giving her 5 oz. of milk replacer in 2 quarts warm water. Today, I'm going to bring out a pail of fresh water for her to drink as she wants it. Okay, picture time at noon.

A good laugh overcomes more difficulties and dissipates more dark clouds than any other one thing - Laura Ingalls Wilder

I live on a small farm of seventy acres called Green Forest Farm, with 10 horses, a donkey, 5 beef cows, 2 beef heifers, 3 Hereford heifers, around 60 chickens, 8 dogs, my amazing cow, AppleButter, and her little Jersey calf HoneyButter!
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NellieBelle

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Posted - Mar 11 2015 :  08:35:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sydney, AppleButter should have free access to water all the time. Especially if you are trying to wean her off the milk replacer.

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Sydney2015

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Posted - Mar 11 2015 :  08:40:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay, I'll make sure she gets some as soon as possible.

A good laugh overcomes more difficulties and dissipates more dark clouds than any other one thing - Laura Ingalls Wilder

I live on a small farm of seventy acres called Green Forest Farm, with 10 horses, a donkey, 5 beef cows, 2 beef heifers, 3 Hereford heifers, around 60 chickens, 8 dogs, my amazing cow, AppleButter, and her little Jersey calf HoneyButter!
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