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Ron

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Ronnie
Peever SD
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Posted - Nov 08 2014 :  08:57:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I guess we all face this if we leave the calf on. Wondering what all everyone does on their place when the calf actually is sucking the teats raw?

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maryjane

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Posted - Nov 08 2014 :  09:18:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've never had that happen, Ron. What a huge drag. Do you put a salve or anything on after you milk? It's a mystery to me. Perhaps you're the first person in that lineage who has left a calf on and the ability to nurse for any length of time was bred out????? Just a thought. I'll keep pondering and ask around. Poor Harriet. Seems like her teats could run the risk of getting infected. Is it on all four teats?

MaryJane Butters, author of Milk Cow Kitchen ~ striving for the stoicism of a cow standing in the rain ~
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Ron

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Ronnie
Peever SD
USA

Posted - Nov 08 2014 :  10:02:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, seems to happen to me about every calf. Yes definitely clean,clean,clean. Wash with a Castile soap and iodine mixture, then the test wipes, milk then the wipes again and then the test cream slathered on. Doing that two times a day. Last cow and calf the same thing ( Speckles the cow ) totally diffrent line on the cow and calf. I have been told by some you can file down the calfs teeth but that sounds plain foolish. I am thinking just keep things clean and slathered with moisturizing cream.

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maryjane

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Posted - Nov 08 2014 :  10:07:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You know, I just remembered something. When I was pregnant with my first child, I had a old country doc in a teeny tiny town tell me to start roughing up my nipples a couple of months before I delivered. He said, "Toss your bra and wear rough clothing and rub them hard with a wash cloth when you're in the shower. It'll save you a bunch on pain when your baby is born." (Can you see how red my face is talking about this online:) Maybe his wisdom could apply to pregnant cows? I know we bring our pregnant cows into their stanchions and touch their udders a bunch in order to get them ready. But how about roughing their skin up?

MaryJane Butters, author of Milk Cow Kitchen ~ striving for the stoicism of a cow standing in the rain ~
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maryjane

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Posted - Nov 08 2014 :  10:10:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Betsy actually bites the teats then? Gosh, I've never had a nibbler ... yet. Is Betsy getting plenty of hay and supplements?

MaryJane Butters, author of Milk Cow Kitchen ~ striving for the stoicism of a cow standing in the rain ~
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maryjane

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Posted - Nov 08 2014 :  10:35:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One more idea. Yanno, I started doing mineral panels (diagnostic blood draws) a couple of years ago on all my bovine friends, just to make sure I'm getting their trace minerals, etc. correct.

I first became concerned because Maizy will walk up to a metal rail once in a while and gnaw on it, so it got me to thinking she might be low in a mineral. Turns out she wasn't BUT to my surprise one of her daughters does the same thing. Nature, nurture? If that sort of thing is behavioral, I'm glad it hasn't caught on with any of my other girls. But one of her calves also?

MaryJane Butters, author of Milk Cow Kitchen ~ striving for the stoicism of a cow standing in the rain ~
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Ron

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Ronnie
Peever SD
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Posted - Nov 08 2014 :  11:35:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Betsy isn't getting any supplemets. She gets Mom 24/7, always hay out and a Redmond salt/mineral block and I toss the mixture of flax pellets/corn ots for Her when I milk Harriet. I don't think She is knowing on the tests it is more like it looks like heavy sucking and Her teeth sort of make lines/cuts on Moms teats. Harrietvseems to handle it I just never liked the looks of it.

The old country DR. Must have been on to something I guess. No need to be embarrassed, I thinkmitbis great we can share good information. I never would have known that if you had not posted it. If nothing else I can be more understanding of ne Moms now!

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Ron

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Ronnie
Peever SD
USA

Posted - Nov 08 2014 :  11:36:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh by the way. Mail came today! How totally beautiful. I am thinking Charlene's Mom?

Pictures to come of the gift in action!

Thank you for the thoughtfulness, I love it!

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NellieBelle

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Posted - Nov 08 2014 :  1:24:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm sorry about Harriets teats. I don't like the looks of Nellies' sometimes. The calves can be pretty hard on them. Even though were not milking Nellie right now, I still apply the Dynamint cream. It must be the period of time we've been doctored MaryJane because my doctor told me the same thing, about the roughening up the nipples with a washcloth and towel. I really don't know if it would help on a cows teats or not. Guess a person could try it. You would be getting them use to being fussed with and getting their teats ready at the same time.

To laugh is human but to moo is bovine. Author Unknown
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Ron

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Ronnie
Peever SD
USA

Posted - Nov 08 2014 :  1:46:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK guys, now this is more information than an old prairie man needs! Lol.. :)

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farmlife

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Posted - Nov 08 2014 :  1:48:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's funny to hear you talk about roughing up the skin before breast feeding, MaryJane and Janet. The first time my friend offered to teach me how to milk his cow I was nursing one of my kids. I told him I couldn't because I had too much sympathy for her. Since I've started doing research I've found a lot of correlations between humans and cows and the milking process.

Maybe Harriet is just too nice of a cow to let Betsy know when she is hurting her, Ron. You'll have to teach her how to give a little tough love. I used to tap my kids on the nose when they would bite and tell them no.
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Ron

4666 Posts
Ronnie
Peever SD
USA

Posted - Nov 08 2014 :  2:05:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow. I guess I should be glad I was born a guy. Between pregnant for better part of a year, labor, delivering, and then nursing and to top it off some old doctor telling you to ruff things up! Whoa....

Maybe I better talk to Harriet and tell Her what you guys said.

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farmlife

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Posted - Nov 08 2014 :  4:05:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You do that, Ron!
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Ron

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Ronnie
Peever SD
USA

Posted - Nov 08 2014 :  4:08:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I told Her. She sort of answered like Elaine. " just be quiet and leave it to me, I will handle it " I was dumbfounded, all I could say was " yes Dear " milked Her, cleaned Her, fed Her and left!

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CloversMum

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Posted - Nov 09 2014 :  9:03:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I enjoy reading all the posts in this chatroom...just brings a smile and laugh to my eyes and heart! And, I can just imagine the red faces all around! I can sympathize more with the cow and a milking machine. One of my children was born quite prematurely and I ended up having to use a breast pump for almost a year...not to go into details, but that was much rougher than having any baby nursing! And, I felt like a cow as milk would leak as soon as the pump was turned on! Good grief. (I nursed all of my babies, but the preemie wasn't able to nurse for several months.) Slather on that cream!!

Loving life and family on our Idaho farm, Meadowlark Heritage Farm; A few Jersey cows; a few alpacas; a few more goats, and even more ducks and chickens
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CloversMum

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Posted - Nov 09 2014 :  9:05:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And, I really have to laugh because when I first saw the title of this post, I thought it said "Chewed Treats" and I was ready to get grossed out over some chewed up and spit out cow treats! lol

Loving life and family on our Idaho farm, Meadowlark Heritage Farm; A few Jersey cows; a few alpacas; a few more goats, and even more ducks and chickens
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Ron

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Ronnie
Peever SD
USA

Posted - Nov 09 2014 :  9:24:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know Charlene. I have had to endure all my friends here telling me about their breast adventures!
I guess that gives a whole new meaning to bosom buddies? 😊

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CloversMum

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Posted - Nov 10 2014 :  08:45:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is giving me a good laugh this morning as I drink my coffee with Jersey cream (thanks to MaryJane's generosity)!

Loving life and family on our Idaho farm, Meadowlark Heritage Farm; A few Jersey cows; a few alpacas; a few more goats, and even more ducks and chickens
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Ron

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Ronnie
Peever SD
USA

Posted - Nov 10 2014 :  10:02:53 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Laughter is the be.st medicine! ( and a good washcloth )

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NellieBelle

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Posted - Nov 10 2014 :  10:13:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe that's why I haven't had any problems with Nellie's or Sienna's teats. I use white terry cloth, 100% cotton washcloths to wash their teats before milking. Never putting the used cloth back in the water. I take several washcloths for each cow. I use one and wash the worst off, put it in a separate bucket, then I continue to take another and another until I see no dirt or discolor on the white terrycloth wash cloth. That's why I have so much cow laundry. I put them in my sanitize cycle of my washer and dryer and wha-lah ready to go again. I have over 50 or so, just for the girls. Maybe that toughened up their teats. ?

Edited by - NellieBelle on Nov 10 2014 10:17:57 AM
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Ron

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Ronnie
Peever SD
USA

Posted - Nov 10 2014 :  10:34:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah I donthevsame here too, I think it could be the test size too. The front ones require 2 hands to milk. She is big! A well endowed cow!

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