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Jersey James

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James
Central FL
United States

Posted - Nov 01 2014 :  3:53:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We won't have our Cow Kitchen book until Tuesday or Wed. I thought I ordered it but didn't hit the final button on Amazon until today. We want to make our first cream cheese tomorrow. We have cream cheese recipes and the required culture. Does anyone have any special hints tips or advise? Thank You!


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Ron

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Ronnie
Peever SD
USA

Posted - Nov 01 2014 :  5:21:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi James, not much help but page 61 of MJ's book.

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Ron

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Ronnie
Peever SD
USA

Posted - Nov 01 2014 :  5:23:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is another on for now.

http://www.theprairiehomestead.com/2012/10/how-to-make-cream-cheese.html

With a moo moo here and a moo moo there, here a moo, there a moo, everywhere a moo moo.
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Jersey James

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James
Central FL
United States

Posted - Nov 01 2014 :  5:48:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A big Mahalo Ron! I could not read the page 61 but Ines was excited to see the recipe in the second post because it requires no rennet. Her words, "cool, I'll try it tomorrow!" You are affecting life way down in the far southeast. Butterfly wings. Nice. Stay warm. We go down to 39 tomorrow. Brrrrr.

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Ron

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Ronnie
Peever SD
USA

Posted - Nov 01 2014 :  6:24:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thirty nine! Heat wave! Was 19 here the other morning with 50 mph wind gusts taking the wind chill down to, well you get the picture. Life on the northern plains. No bugs,low taxes, no rules..lol all good if you survive..lol

With a moo moo here and a moo moo there, here a moo, there a moo, everywhere a moo moo.

Edited by - Ron on Nov 01 2014 6:24:34 PM
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Jersey James

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James
Central FL
United States

Posted - Nov 02 2014 :  05:07:45 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LOL. We got a good chuckle at "heat wave". We have our first fire in the fireplace and went out all bundled up to feed our tribe. It's all relative. Coming from Hawaii, we were freezing when it got down to low 60's. Ines is German and she's become a bigger cold wimp than I am. It's all good. I think 52 is the lowest low forecast for the coming week. Stay warm up there!

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Ron

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Ronnie
Peever SD
USA

Posted - Nov 02 2014 :  05:20:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good morning James. Always extremes here on the northern plains. I can't even imagine how the folks dealt with things in previous generations. The has not been a State that long and I look at the history books and stories of the sod homes and burning buffalo chips for heat during long winters..brrrrrr.. You guys ever read the little house on the prairie book Series? Makes for good family reading and gives you an idea of homesteading on the plains.

With a moo moo here and a moo moo there, here a moo, there a moo, everywhere a moo moo.
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Jersey James

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James
Central FL
United States

Posted - Nov 02 2014 :  05:36:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good morning Ron! Are you in Ziebach County? I read those books as a child. We should introduce them to Maka.

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Ron

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Ronnie
Peever SD
USA

Posted - Nov 02 2014 :  05:50:38 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is us.Ziebach County. They say one of the poorest counties in the nation. I love that. No one wants what they think you don't have. :)

With a moo moo here and a moo moo there, here a moo, there a moo, everywhere a moo moo.
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Jersey James

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James
Central FL
United States

Posted - Nov 02 2014 :  10:43:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I read that the entire county is in two reservations? That last sentence is a real brain teaser! =)

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Ron

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Ronnie
Peever SD
USA

Posted - Nov 02 2014 :  12:42:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We are on the Cheyenne River Siuox a Tribe reservation. One reservation to the north one to the south. Really nice area. Wide open, many good things about it. Weather is the main downside. Always extreme, too dry, too wet, too cold, too hot, too windy, too many grasshoppers. Lol..always said if you can make it happen here you can make it happen about anywhere.

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Jersey James

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James
Central FL
United States

Posted - Nov 02 2014 :  4:28:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That sounds so interesting. Winter is really nice here but it gets too dry. Summer is brutally hot and humid and way too wet. Have a great night and stay warm!

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Ron

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Ronnie
Peever SD
USA

Posted - Nov 02 2014 :  4:37:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You too James. You and yours be happy and well.
Yeah, used to live east and Wife said She will not go any further south than I90. Lol, so as you say " happy Wife.........." :)

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Jersey James

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James
Central FL
United States

Posted - Nov 04 2014 :  06:30:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ron, that cream cheese came out interestingly good. It's like sour cream whipped together with cream cheese. If I had thought to make such a concoction before - Ida done it and had "south of the border bagels". It's great. I doubt we could duplicate the result if we tried =). It took an extra 12 hours to really firm up so hence the sourness (I think). Mistakes are the genesis of some truly wonderful experiences...

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maryjane

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Posted - Nov 04 2014 :  06:35:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When we invented our cream cheese recipe we tried that version also. Pretty much we tried everything we could get our hands on and then some. In the end we decided to shoot for creating a recipe that comes-as-close-to-the-cream-cheese-we're-all-used-to. That's why ours ended up with rennet in it.

MaryJane Butters, author of Milk Cow Kitchen ~ striving for the stoicism of a cow standing in the rain ~
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Jersey James

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James
Central FL
United States

Posted - Nov 04 2014 :  06:37:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Note to self: Renit Init!

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Ron

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Ronnie
Peever SD
USA

Posted - Nov 04 2014 :  06:44:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
( the old drum noise). Bababoom

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Ashley

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Posted - Nov 04 2014 :  07:34:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought I would jump in here too. The rennet in the cream cheese recipe makes it coagulate faster, so the cream and milk culture for just long enough to give a little bit of cultured flavor, but not so much that it tastes like sour cream. Also, I've found that if something cultures for too long, it can turn grainy. Since the amount of time it can take something to thicken on its own can vary, it is easy to have that happen.

Don't get me wrong, sour cream tasting spread sounds delicious. Stir in some chives or roasted garlic and slather it on a bagel...yum!

Ashley (MaryJane's DIL)
MaryJanesFarm Food Guru
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Jersey James

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James
Central FL
United States

Posted - Nov 04 2014 :  07:43:57 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great idea! It's almost like quark which most people have never tasted (real quark). Thanks for the 411 about rennet. That makes total sense based on our observation. Time for a unique bagel. Oy-le!

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maryjane

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Posted - Nov 04 2014 :  07:47:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wait until you taste the new recipe Ashley is working on again this morning, Quesa Fresca. Coming soon to a chatroom near you.

MaryJane Butters, author of Milk Cow Kitchen ~ striving for the stoicism of a cow standing in the rain ~
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maryjane

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Posted - Nov 04 2014 :  07:56:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ashley just called me on the intercom to say it's Queso Fresco. Seems like I'm always trying to feminize things. Heifers, not bulls, Quesa Fresca.

MaryJane Butters, author of Milk Cow Kitchen ~ striving for the stoicism of a cow standing in the rain ~
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NellieBelle

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Posted - Nov 04 2014 :  08:18:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Queso Fresco or Quesa Fresco, either way, can't wait! Appreciate all of the work that Ashley and yourself put into the cheese making and recipes. Thank you so much!
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farmlife

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Posted - Nov 04 2014 :  7:33:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had queso fresco in Paraguay a few years ago. They ate it with either dulce de leche or guava jelly. Either way it was definitely dessert!
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maryjane

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Posted - Nov 05 2014 :  05:35:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It would be divine as a dessert. It has become our new obsession. We're testing to see how long it lasts in the fridge and if it freezes well. Soon we'll be ready to share the recipe!

MaryJane Butters, author of Milk Cow Kitchen ~ striving for the stoicism of a cow standing in the rain ~
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Jersey James

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James
Central FL
United States

Posted - Nov 05 2014 :  06:54:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We used the Oy-Le! (tm) Sour Cream Cheese in an eggplant quiche as a substitute for heavy cream and it was a home run. Thanks again Ron for the recipe and thanks to everyone for your input. Cant wait to make Queso Fresco! =)

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