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Screensize: 640 x 480 800 x 600 1024 x 768 1280 x 1024 Format Mode: Basic  Help  Prompt  Format: Font Andale Mono Arial Arial Black Book Antiqua Century Gothic Comic Sans MS Courier New Georgia Impact Lucida Console Script MT Bold Stencil Tahoma Times New Roman Trebuchet MS Verdana   Size 1 2 3 4 5 6   Color Black Red Yellow Pink Green Orange Purple Blue Beige Brown Teal Navy Maroon LimeGreen Message: * HTML is OFF * Forum Code is ON Smilies [quote][i]Originally posted by maryjane[/i] [br]Cindy, you mentioned you’re starting to think about semen for Sally and Elsa. As you know, line breeding works well when it works. It's a chance many people take. The problem I've run into in looking at semen for sale in the mainstream world (not the miniature Jersey world) is any kind of size indication. I just can't get the answers I want. And I don't find very many polled notations. There seems to be quite a bit of A2A2 semen available. If you've discovered otherwise, do share! I'm going to try Margarethe's Dairyman (H/H) semen for Ester Lily (Miss Daisy and Magnolia’s sire). If that doesn't work next month (only one AI try) then Finnegan is my back-up plan. I'm not worried about scurs or horns in a bull used for her because she's homozygous polled. No horns no matter what. For Miss Daisy I'm going to try some semen I've had on ice for quite some time (miniature Jersey) and if it doesn't work first try, Charlie is her man because he is Pf/Pf and Daisy is H/H. If I put her with Samson, there's still a chance her calf would have to be dehorned. Although I did buy some of Dr. Naylor's dehorning paste and have watched a couple of videos about how and when to apply it, keeping in mind the calf can't be around other animals for a few days because it's caustic (problematic for a nursing calf and it needs to be done as soon as you feel buds). With regards to Sally, I do believe I said to you that perhaps Charlie could be collected at WSU. That isn't the same as Genex semen (like Samson) because their technology isn't as high tech. They certainly don't save semen unless it looks good under their microscope but knowing the actual sperm count put into a straw isn't as defined. Plus, they wouldn't require 30 days isolation and all the testing Genex requires on bulls they collect. If you were interested, I could pinpoint how much it would cost to collect him. I know storage of a bull's semen over there is $168/year. It's a long shot. I will be taking him over in Sept. for trich testing, vib, vaccinations, and a hoof trim. He could be collected at that time. On the other hand, Samson could be part of your discussions. Both Sally (Pf/H) and Samson (Pf/H) share the same father, Cochise. When I paired Sal and Sam here, I got Tony (https://heritagejersey.org/chatroom/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=283). He was born a beautiful red/fawn with a white heart on his forehead and white feet and tail. Absolutely stunning and gorgeous. But he grabbed their sleeper horns and to my disappointment tested H/H. (Before he was sold, he passed a breeding soundness exam at WSU.) His horns were a deterrent for me to pair them again but another calf by the two of them could just as easily be Pf/H or Pf/Pf. Their union would just as likely produce a calf that is Pf/Pf as H/H. Pf/H would be more likely and is what I was hoping for when I paired them. Food for thought. I am by no means promoting Samson for use with Sally or Elsa, but I also didn't want to appear as though I thought it was a bad idea. We now know that over and over again Samson’s semen gets ‘em pregnant. Elsa is Pf/H (no horns) but out of a Pf/Pf and Pf/H union (Charlie and Sally), she grabbed the H. Also, Samson, Sally, Elsa, and Charlie are all A2A2. [/quote]   Check here to include your profile signature. Check here to subscribe to this topic.