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CloversMum Posted - Jan 13 2016 : 09:23:10 AM
I was reading an article in the Acres Magazine last night and one woman talked about completing a Holistic Management International Beginning Women Farmers and Ranchers course. I think someone here in the chat room talked about something similar in Texas, but I am wondering if somewhere it would be offered online? I could not find anything in the state of Idaho. But maybe I am missing something?
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CloversMum Posted - Jan 23 2016 : 10:35:47 AM
Sounds like a great plan, Cindy! Can I just say again that this chat room is wonderful for making new connections and friends.
txbikergirl Posted - Jan 22 2016 : 05:31:38 AM
charlene we can totally get things under control in the next 6 months - then enjoy the fall and holidays, and start our new year off in school with our online holistic class. i am super excited!
CloversMum Posted - Jan 21 2016 : 8:48:12 PM
My head is barely above water ... in fact, I keep bobbing! But I think I'm on the same page as Cindy as I will start investigating later this year. On line courses seem to fit into my life right now; although, the hands-on part or if you, Cindy, find an extraordinary class/seminar to take ... ok, I'll stop dreaming now.

txbikergirl Posted - Jan 21 2016 : 1:24:58 PM
thanks for the info Caren, that is sweet. I'll start to get more involved in late 2016, just trying to keep my head above water right now ;>

It's great that Texas has so many resources for it, even if it is a bit to far for Miss Charlene!
Caren Posted - Jan 21 2016 : 11:40:19 AM

Holistic Management International offers online programs at and click on Training programs.

Most states have instructors so maybe you can find a group in Idaho,
because Texas is a very very long way for a farm girl. :)
CloversMum Posted - Jan 17 2016 : 9:19:10 PM
Texas is a LONG ways from Idaho ...

From an Idaho farmgirl.
Caren Posted - Jan 17 2016 : 9:05:21 PM

I graduated from HMI Beginning Farming and Ranching Women in Texas program Spring 2014. I will find out about online classes. The HMI Texas educator is one of my milk customers (when I am open for business).

Cindy, I am not sure if you are located close to Canton, Texas, but there is a HMI Leader there and she has monthly meetings. Actually last weekend I travelled to east Texas to buy a compost tea sprayer that she had fitted out in Tyler at Rozell's.

The monthly HMI class is the 27th and I will probably go to audit. All ex-graduates are welcome to freshen up on topics if needed.

Tomorrow evening in Waco, Kit Pharo from Pharo Cattle Company will be speaking on grass-fed cattle genetics. They are beef seed stock genetic providers and very knowledgeable.

Also, February 20-21, there will be a Mother Earth. News Fair in Belton, Texas. I plan to attend both days, the workshops look great.

Maybe this will help. I will get back with some information about HMI. ;)
txbikergirl Posted - Jan 15 2016 : 1:13:03 PM
charlene, i am super excited. as i am a finance gal i can make that part easy for us if you have questions, and i know you are much farther ahead with farm and herd management so you can help me there. and everyone on HJO can help us also.

i really could use the land management and grazing classes THIS year, but the fact there is only 24 hours in each day is really getting in my way! i need at least 6 hours of sleep daily, and i would love 7 but tend to prioritize an hour in the tub with a good book ahead of more sleep ;> this morning i actually got up at 5am and went straight to the tub instead of sleeping longer, it just feels great to start the day that way.
CloversMum Posted - Jan 15 2016 : 10:51:57 AM
I know I will be learning lots and it will be great to share our highlights!

It will be a commitment as it requires a few hours every single week but I think the knowledge learned would be fantastic.
maryjane Posted - Jan 15 2016 : 06:27:15 AM
Sharing is a good thing. Nudge, nudge. Hopefully, we'll glean a few tidbits in 2017.
CloversMum Posted - Jan 14 2016 : 9:15:45 PM
Ok we will be the Heritage Jersey gals working on the Holistic Management classes together! 2016 is just beginning and already I have something to look forward to in 2017!
txbikergirl Posted - Jan 14 2016 : 12:41:04 PM
charlene i would be VERY open to doing this as accountability partners for 2017! i am retiring from one of by board of directors positions in August of this year, so that right there frees up about 10-15 hours per month. i am very good about making things happen if i can plan for them, i just know with my lovely cows i gotta concentrate on that for 2016 ;>
CloversMum Posted - Jan 14 2016 : 10:21:56 AM
There is a class that is just now starting on the link that Cindy provided above! Have to register before January 18th! Can't do it now, but it is on my goal list!

Instead I just signed up for a CPR and first aid class ... a requirement for my daughter's future care. But what a good one! Parts of the class are on-line and then the final part is hands on. I'll see how good I am with on-line courses this way! Then I'll be ready for the Holistic Management courses...
CloversMum Posted - Jan 13 2016 : 8:36:25 PM
Maybe we could both make it a goal for 2017 and keep each other accountable? I think I may just be too busy this year with another barn building and sorting out Cecily's adult needs. But I so want to do this!

I had a friend stop by today. She lives on 40 acres and loves being out in the country; however, she has no desire to do anything with her property! To be fair, she is an incredible woman with a fantastic family and her family is her focus right now. It's hard for me to imagine not wanting to do something with that precious land. The feeling of growing your own food or replenishing the ground is so satisfying. Just a different perspective and the world would be a very boring place if we were all alike! I did talk to her about only milking once a day...she thought it had to be twice a day and her daughter wanted a cow, but she's not a morning person. So perhaps I'll get her going with MJ's book and change her perspective.
txbikergirl Posted - Jan 13 2016 : 5:38:45 PM
charlene, i am adding this to my goals for 2017. i just can't do it in 2016, but it really excites me. i am especially interested in the "Holistic Grazing Planning" and "Holistic Land Planning" as those are things lover boy and i revisit often and we have to do a lot of research to make decisions and assure ourselves we are moving in the right direction. some actual instruction in it would be helpful for us.
txbikergirl Posted - Jan 13 2016 : 5:31:52 PM
it was farmgirlval that was certified at Holistic Management International. here's that original post

and they have online classes! found them here

can't wait to see what you do. i am interested too, but i gotta get things a bit more underway here on the homestead before i take on anything else.

maryjane Posted - Jan 13 2016 : 12:30:24 PM
I'll bet this guy, Chrys, could give you a lead to something online.

Pruning Workshop with Jeff Herman and Wakan Burrows.
March 5, 10am - noon - at Heartsong in Tumtum, WA
Come and learn pruning and tree care from two of our region’s most knowledgeable tree people.

Jeff Herman and his wife planted their certified organic orchard
in 1982 and their fruit is renowned throughout the region.

Wakan Burrows is a practicing permaculturist and arborist who has a keen eye for good technique.

Bring your own, sharp hand clippers, loppers and pruning saws.

Workshop: $35 per person, 16 yrs. and younger, $5. Please pre-register.

Followed by a potluck lunch. Potluck is free after the workshop ends. Bring food to share and your own table settings.


Chrys Ostrander, Caretaker at Heartsong, to reserve your space.

Email: | Phone: 914-246-0309

Workshop participants will need to sign a liability waiver.

CloversMum Posted - Jan 13 2016 : 12:19:22 PM
Thanks. My preference would be an online class first.
maryjane Posted - Jan 13 2016 : 11:08:29 AM
I would start by asking at both our universities. I've come across programs as such in Spokane but local seems like a good place to start looking.

Colleen Donovan
Washington State University
Center for Sustaining Ag and Natural Resources
Small Farms Program


Cinda Williams
University of Idaho
Small Farms/Sustainable Agriculture Program