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CloversMum Posted - Jun 16 2014 : 10:27:04 PM
As we begin thinking about hay for this next season, we learned that our usual source of alfalfa hay is going to start producing huge bales...over 1000 lbs each! We have heard from a couple of farmers that producing the huge round or square bales are more cost effective for the farmer because there is less labor needed as the tractor does most of the work. Have you heard that, MaryJane? I am so disappointed...the regular rectangular bales are just fine for me to manage! We bale our own grass hay into regular bales, but still need alfalfa hay. Still looking...
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hugho Posted - Jan 29 2018 : 10:17:14 AM
This is an old post but still timely. In My area of NW Wyoming /SE Idaho, there is plenty of 2 string hay and straw to be found. Jackson Hole has probably as many horses as cows on year round paddocks and few ranches have cow /calf operations any more. Most just summer graze and ship the steers in fall. The horse demand means high demand for 2 string hay. Even some of the big industrial sized hay producers in places like The Green River area put up a lot of 2 string bales. Price per ton seems to be 10-25% higher. Last fall I paid $70 for 1350 lb grass hay big bale but $150--200 ton for 2 string bales of equivalent quality(both 2nd cutting.When diesel(ie energy) costs eventually rise we will have more human and animal energy inputs and fossil energy food and livestock production will become uneconomic and things like 2 string bales which can be handled by people rather than tractors will be the norm again.
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As we begin thinking about hay for this next season, we learned that our usual source of alfalfa hay is going to start producing huge bales...over 1000 lbs each! We have heard from a couple of farmers that producing the huge round or square bales are more cost effective for the farmer because there is less labor needed as the tractor does most of the work. Have you heard that, MaryJane? I am so disappointed...the regular rectangular bales are just fine for me to manage! We bale our own grass hay into regular bales, but still need alfalfa hay. Still looking...

maryjane Posted - Dec 15 2015 : 09:14:43 AM
Attention span has gone to the birds.
NellieBelle Posted - Dec 15 2015 : 09:00:54 AM
Yes, I imagine Twitter would be like that. My personality falls somewhere between the pony express and snail mail. All this new message sending is overwhelming to me. Anything that goes too fast around here I just want to swat it with the fly swatter. In this fast paced world of business I can see where you snooze you lose, but it's just not for me. Born too late. I like to take time and see/feel/experience things. Too impersonal for me. I think they should have called it Snippets.
maryjane Posted - Dec 15 2015 : 08:37:29 AM
Janet, the name Twitter really fits the type of personality that loves Twitter. It's for those who flitter like a bird ... this branch, no, this branch! Short, sweet missives, then on to the next thing. Texting is the same thing. Brief. Lacking in content. Over. Done.

Facebook lands somewhere in between Twitter and a chatroom. And then there's Instagram, photos only. And Pinterest, crafting/d├ęcor eye candy without detailed instruction. It's a crafter's twitter.

I prefer good old-fashioned emails and a chatroom. Isn't it funny that those things are old-fashioned already? People "PM me" (send me a personal message) through Facebook and I tell them I have an email address and that's my preference so that I can find them again if need be. Everything said on Facebook feels gone an hour later, but as you know, people world wide love it. It's a force in the universe, and in particular the business world. You don't want to be like Montgomery Ward who refused to get an 800 number.
Ron Posted - Dec 15 2015 : 08:14:10 AM
Ok.....we have gone to the birds.. ( cuckoo )
NellieBelle Posted - Dec 15 2015 : 08:06:23 AM
Twitter(of a bird) give a call consisting of repeated light tremulous sounds. Chirp, chirrup,cheep, tweet, chatter, trill, warble, sing. :)Must be where they came up with the name Twitter, light sounds, tweeting. Yes Ginger, would love to hear from you when you find time. Let us know how your bovine are doing.
CloversMum Posted - Dec 15 2015 : 06:42:56 AM
I'm right with you, Ron!

MJ, please tell Ginger that we miss her and a hello from me! Thanks for tracking her down.
Ron Posted - Dec 15 2015 : 05:42:01 AM
Twitter? WTH....
maryjane Posted - Dec 14 2015 : 11:59:08 PM
GingerBKelly said via Twitter:
Thank you but no feed store yet. Tell Charlene hey & I'll be on the Jersey Chatroom soon. I need to stay connected!
CloversMum Posted - Dec 12 2015 : 8:38:38 PM
I'm not on Twitter so let us know what she says!
maryjane Posted - Dec 12 2015 : 10:06:04 AM
I've noticed that Ginger is a big fan of Twitter. She responds almost daily to my tweets. I'll ask her next time she's twittering.
CloversMum Posted - Dec 12 2015 : 09:05:34 AM
Ginger, did you ever open up a little feed store?
CloversMum Posted - Aug 31 2015 : 11:59:15 AM
Now, wouldn't that be a great idea, Ginger? You could sell enough to pay for your own animals' feed.
GingerBKelly Posted - Aug 31 2015 : 08:28:56 AM
How much alfalfa pellets do you feed to a miniature dairy cow, per day, or whenever? I wouldn't know how much to give, without overfeeding. BTW: My husband made the suggestion, just yesterday, that if we convert our little area (where we now have a swimming pool) into a barn area, by having a metal barn erected, maybe we could plan to have enough storage space to have a small retail organic feed store business. I thought this was a very good idea, indeed, depending (of course) if the figures make sense. We have no organic feed in our area and I know people who are interested. Generally, I travel over an hour at least once a month (that's a big deal in Massachusetts), just to pick up my organic feed.
CloversMum Posted - Aug 22 2015 : 8:45:53 PM
I think that with Modesto Mills, you can order and have it shipped to you. Of course, the bigger the order, the more economical it is and maybe you could order with another family to get a bigger order.

GingerBKelly Posted - Aug 22 2015 : 10:36:51 AM
I'm impressed the Chaffhaye alfalfa is GMO free. They also have retailers in the Northeast, near my area. Nice! Here is the link where I could find the different retailers in my area. http://chaffhaye.com Apparently, no such luck with ModestoMilling.com.
CloversMum Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 10:00:22 PM
https://www.heritagejersey.org/chatroom/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=606&whichpage=1

I think this is the link for the thread. Its located under pasture fed vs. grain fed.
CloversMum Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 9:58:16 PM
What about Chaffhaye? That's alfalfa and I think they are working towards organic certification. My cows love it! There's another thread on this chatroom where Chaffhaye is talked about in depth.
maryjane Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 1:23:28 PM
Most of us buy ModestoMilling.com organic alfalfa pellets. I have the same problem getting good organic hay but Modesto solved that problem for me. I also use their non-soy organic grain pellets for treats. And they sell DE, kelp meal, and sodium bicarbonate as explained in my book. They love the alfalfa pellets. I know Modesto will ship a pallet load most anywhere.
GingerBKelly Posted - Aug 20 2015 : 11:45:00 AM
Does anyone know where I could get organic alphalfa up here, in the Northeast? I looked for some last year, but ran into a few dead ends.
Ron Posted - Sep 02 2014 : 2:40:08 PM
Rancid=bad??lol..
Another thing used for cows here is millet. It grows fast and tall, cut it like hay and let it dry and bale it up. Cows love it and it is good for them in winter as well. Temps here can go to -30 f and wind chills off the chart. A cow needs all the help it can get. Of course my milk cows are in the bar, no heat but no wind.
maryjane Posted - Sep 02 2014 : 2:29:52 PM
More great tips!!!! Thanks. Never heard of flax pellets. I will check it out.

Earlier in the week I tossed some whole fresh flax seed into my mouth, enjoying the flavor of "fresh ground" flax. Yum. I love their flavor when fresh. Not so great when old and rancid.
Ron Posted - Sep 02 2014 : 1:51:08 PM
PS..flax pellets are good as well and more protein than alfalfa. We get the transitional ones ( organic but not yet certified ) from a company called buckwheat growers of MN. They have a website and have many other products and shipping is reasonable. They are an all organic mill.
Ron Posted - Sep 02 2014 : 1:40:57 PM
Glad to help. Even nice for a few extra dollars as well. Generally I can get ( what I do not grow ) rounds for about $80 a ton and get about 40 bales of 50 pounds each and sell them for a minimum of $5 a bale. The tractor gas might run you $10 max to do one ton which pays someone $50 an hour to do the ton.
maryjane Posted - Sep 02 2014 : 07:11:17 AM
I'm pretty excited about this. We can get big bales under storage here (delivered) but from there everything we do is set up for the smaller two-string bales. Such a great tip!!! Many, many thanks.